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	<title>Comments on: Mending Broken Windows</title>
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		<title>By: Michael Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just been through a release I would agree that we don&#039;t communicate the impacts. I would also argue that it&#039;s difficult to do in a meaningful way. I&#039;ve spent a week consulting and fine tuning a test summary. Each stakeholder wants something different, and none want too much information. If i&#039;m finding it difficult to pitch enough but not too much information i&#039;m sure the testers have the same trouble. 

I&#039;m finding that time spent with stakeholders is always beneficial. challenging and always worthwhile.

I&#039;d be interested in any reading recommendations you have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just been through a release I would agree that we don&#8217;t communicate the impacts. I would also argue that it&#8217;s difficult to do in a meaningful way. I&#8217;ve spent a week consulting and fine tuning a test summary. Each stakeholder wants something different, and none want too much information. If i&#8217;m finding it difficult to pitch enough but not too much information i&#8217;m sure the testers have the same trouble. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m finding that time spent with stakeholders is always beneficial. challenging and always worthwhile.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in any reading recommendations you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Jansson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Jansson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I see often is that we as testers adapt to our situation and plan accordingly. At this stage we take shortcuts based on our new situation. I rarely see us communicate back to our stakeholders what these shortcuts mean.

When I coach I tell the test lead to plan according what she and her group needs to do to meet a specific the information objectives and quality level. Lack of resources is a state that could change.

I think this area can be delved a lot deeper into. Weinberg has written a lot in this area and it might need to be resurfaced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I see often is that we as testers adapt to our situation and plan accordingly. At this stage we take shortcuts based on our new situation. I rarely see us communicate back to our stakeholders what these shortcuts mean.</p>
<p>When I coach I tell the test lead to plan according what she and her group needs to do to meet a specific the information objectives and quality level. Lack of resources is a state that could change.</p>
<p>I think this area can be delved a lot deeper into. Weinberg has written a lot in this area and it might need to be resurfaced.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Johnston</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Johnston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 23:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks  Martin. 

That&#039;s quite a thought provoking comment. Worthy of a dissertation in answer. 
In short though I would say that there are a couple of things that can be done to help manage the testing debt. And avoid broken windows.    

I&#039;m keen on testing early, testing often and testing as close to reality as possible. But as functionality grows, it&#039;s not possible to test everything and testing debt creeps in. Choosing what tests to run, managing that debt whilst being a bug advocate, or flagging failing automation to stop the broken windows is what makes us testers, not just robots.

I&#039;m sure i&#039;ll post again about these skills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks  Martin. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s quite a thought provoking comment. Worthy of a dissertation in answer.<br />
In short though I would say that there are a couple of things that can be done to help manage the testing debt. And avoid broken windows.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;m keen on testing early, testing often and testing as close to reality as possible. But as functionality grows, it&#8217;s not possible to test everything and testing debt creeps in. Choosing what tests to run, managing that debt whilst being a bug advocate, or flagging failing automation to stop the broken windows is what makes us testers, not just robots.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure i&#8217;ll post again about these skills.</p>
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