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		<title>Test ideas for a login process</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 21:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren McMillan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What follows is my thoughts on testing a login process.  This originally started out as a comment on a post Santhosh Tuppad made around his ideas for testing a login...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><p>What follows is my thoughts on testing a login process.  This originally started out as a comment on a post Santhosh Tuppad made around his ideas for <a href="http://tuppad.com/blog/2011/09/01/login-test-ideas/" target="_blank">testing a login process</a>, but I quickly realised my list was becoming a little bit on the large side.  Thanks for the challenge Santhosh <img src='http://www.bettertesting.co.uk/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So here is my thoughts in the form of a mind map (you can click on it to see it in a larger size).  I&#8217;ve also uploaded an accessible list which can be accessed <a href="http://www.bettertesting.co.uk/content/uploads/login-ideas.html" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
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<p>I hope you&#8217;ll find some stuff which I haven&#8217;t considered, and find some that you wouldn&#8217;t have considered either <img src='http://www.bettertesting.co.uk/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>An untapped sea of knowledge</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren McMillan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a week or so back while browsing Adam Knight’s website, reading his latest blog entry, I had a quick read of his Bio which lead me to his company...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><div>About a week or so back while browsing <a href="http://a-sisyphean-task.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">Adam Knight’s</a> website, reading his latest blog entry, I had a quick read of his Bio which lead me to his company website <a href="http://www.rainstor.com/" target="_blank">RainStor</a>.  It turned out that RainStor do very similar things to our company <a href="http://www.maidsafe.net/" target="_blank">MaidSafe</a>.  So I spotted an opportunity to learn from someone who’s done what I’m trying to do, in building a small start-ups test effort from the ground up.</p>
<p>So I got in touch with Adam to see if he’d be interested in having a quick chat to answer some questions that I had in regards to his test approach at RainStor.  He replied back very quickly, letting me know that he’d be more than happy to chat with me, and even offering me to come down to RainStor to see how they do things.</p>
<p>To be honest, I’d expected a positive reply, and I’ll tell you why.  The testing community is still relatively small in terms of active participants online.  Those that do get involved in discussions, writing articles, or public speaking, are generally very giving.  Sure, you will get the odd <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)" target="_blank">troll</a>, but to be honest I’ve personally never seen one yet.  So I guess what I’m saying is that if you give a little to the community, others with happily give a little back.  If you give a lot, you’ll get a lot back.  Sure, this might not always be the case, but most of the time members of our community are very kind and helpful.</p>
<p>So anyway, we&#8217;d talked over the phone for around ninety minutes, starting off with us talking a little about what our companies do, and then with me asking him a lot of questions.  My main goal of the chat, was to find out how Adam had approach performance testing, and scaling up to levels similar to customer environments.</p>
<p>I got a lot of useful information from him, in terms of scalability I’m still not 100% sure as how best to approach this for our company since our companies testing differs in terms of technology, they real with archive data, whilst we deal with live data and archive.  It’s something that has us all scratching our heads on how to do this in a cost effective manner.  None the less I’m sure we’ll think of something, and if not we can always go for our plan B which whilst inexpensive in terms of money spent, does at the same time impact potential revenue.  That being said though, this plan B could lead us to making more money in the long run, strangely enough, confused?  Yup, well sadly this is one of the rare occasions when I can’t disclose information.</p>
<p>So back to my chat with Adam and why this makes an interesting topic for me, that is of course if you weren&#8217;t already thinking this yourself.  The testing community is potentially huge!  The active community is much smaller.  The amount of people actively engaging other members of the community for information, is again much, much smaller!</p>
<p>Now, making use of other members of the community is something I’ve always done when I’ve spotted the potential to learn something new.  Do others though?  I makes me wonder why we don’t engage in discussions with companies doing similar things more often?  Sure, quite often they might be the direct competition, but perhaps we’ll have the chance to work together, to help push each other forward.</p>
<p>Me and Adam are now going to keep in touch, and perhaps set up a mailing list at some point between our teams if we see some potential for learning from each other, or even as a means to share ideas.  In the future we might even split the costs for in house training if it works out well for us.  The founder of our company, my boss <a href="https://profiles.google.com/irvine.david/posts" target="_blank">David Irvine</a>, being the forward thinking guy that he is, has said he’s happy for Adam’s team and others to make use of our resources in terms of test scripts, automation and so on.  That’s a rare thing, but hey what an opportunity right?  So it was certainly beneficial for me, and I&#8217;ve certainly got lots of things to think about.</p>
<p>So why don’t we all help each other more often?  I get that legality comes into the equation for some people, but hey, it doesn&#8217;t harm to ask!  I&#8217;ll certainly be looking in to expanding my network in the future.  Perhaps at some point even, this circle of similar companies exchanging ideas, might just get that edge over those who’d closed their doors from the outside world.  Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>The wee black book.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Darren McMillan</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The wee black book all battered and torn with its pages no longer bound to it&#8217;s cover, to say its seen better days would be putting it lightly!  Yet, this...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- Start Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><!-- End Shareaholic LikeButtonSetTop Automatic --><p>The wee black book all battered and torn with its pages no longer bound to it&#8217;s cover, to say its seen better days would be putting it lightly!  Yet, this little investment combined with a cheap ink pen has for me been the bargain of the past year, and I truly mean that!</p>
<p>So what is it?  Why should you care?  Well it&#8217;s exactly as the post title states, a little black book that is small enough to fit in your pocket.  One that you could pull out at any moment and take note of that little idea you had that you know you&#8217;ll forget about if you don&#8217;t find some way to remember it quickly.</p>
<p>I often find myself thinking about ways to improve things, or topics I want to blog about, or even just having a debate with myself (in my head) on anything (I&#8217;m not troubled, I swear!).  Now and again, probably a few times a week I&#8217;ll have a fantastic idea that I really need to take note of, or I might have even thought about a whole blog post and need to jot down a quick high level overview about it.  The wee black book is my friend, it&#8217;s always there for me in times of need!  Sometimes I let it sleep at the side of my bed, or take it for a wee run in the car, I&#8217;ll even occasionally wake it up during the night and disturb it by writing on it&#8217;s wee pages (poor thing).</p>
<p>This works wonders for me!  I&#8217;d often thought about buying something to take notes of my ideas; then quickly forgot about it!  When I finally did remember to buy something it quickly paid its cost a hundred times over and brought to life many a great idea which could have been lost, never to be found again.</p>
<p>Next time why not take note of your ideas?  Get yourself your own wee black book from Glasgow, or even just a small one from anywhere else  <img src='http://www.bettertesting.co.uk/content/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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